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Interact Question #5 - Labor Categories Not Subdivided by Knowledge/Skill Level

Thank you for your previous input on Interact Question #1 – Labor Categories. Your input & feedback is greatly appreciated as many of the contributions & comments received are being considered.

Many of the labor categories under the current GSA Alliant and Alliant Small Business GWACs are further subdivided by knowledge/skill level (i.e., Entry-Level, Journeyman, Senior, Master).   The approach being considered under Alliant 2 (A2) & Alliant 2 Small Business (A2SB) is to not further subdivide labor categories by knowledge/skill level.

The standardized labor categories used by the  Department of Labor (DOL) Bureau of Labor Statistics (BLS) Standard Occupational Classification (SOC) are not further subdivided by knowledge/skill level (i.e., Entry-Level, Journeyman, Senior, Master).  Based on the positive feedback received from Interact Question #1 – Labor Categories, very strong consideration is being given to using actual DOL BLS SOC information technology (IT) services labor categories on A2/A2SB.  For consistency purposes, these labor categories would not be further subdivided by knowledge/skill level (i.e., Entry-Level, Journeyman, Senior, Master).

Please provide feedback and comments to not further subdividing labor categories by knowledge/skill level under A2/A2SB.

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Paul.Anninos
<p>Our apolgies for late response to this question.&nbsp; We believe sub-categorization is helpful to both Government and industry.&nbsp; Pricing can vary dramatically, within an LC, based on levels of experience.&nbsp; Industry can develop more accurate cost estimates, resultng in more accurate and traceable pricing at the LC level&nbsp;&nbsp;While it absolutely creates additional complexity in sheer numbers of Cats/subCats being tracked, it provdes GSA the flexiblity to roll up subCats to Cats - giving GSA the &quot;big picture&quot; in term of allocation of services across IT service categories.&nbsp; And, if GSA so desires, it can look at the detailed data to see how services are distributed at the subCat level.&nbsp; Thanks for the oppotunity to participate.</p><p>REI Systems</p>
George Hansen CSC
<p>CSC agrees with previous posts recommending that the labor categories remain subdivided by knowledge and seniority.&nbsp; As this practice did / does for ANSWER, Alliant, OASIS, and Schedules, it will provide staffing flexibility, better and more detailed pricing, better cost estimating for the Government, and more insight to the Government when evaluating proposals (i.e., determining price realism, ensuring bidders have a good understanding of the reosurces required to fulfill requirements, etc.)</p>
Alliant 2 Blogger (not verified)
<p><span id="docs-internal-guid-a7664a74-a409-7d10-b0e0-39d1c4108219"><span style="font-size: 13px; font-family: Arial; color: rgb(76, 76, 76); vertical-align: baseline; white-space: pre-wrap;">@George Hansen CSC: Thank you for your feedback. Careful consideration will be given as we continue to move forward with our research.</span></span></p>
michael.wiltse
<p>Labor categories should be subdivided by using a numbering system (1 being the lowest) that aligns with common salary surveys (e.g. Towers-Watson.)&nbsp;In addition, labor category levels should be based on duties and responsibilities only, much like the current Alliant and ASB GWACs.</p>
Alliant 2 Blogger (not verified)
<p><span id="docs-internal-guid-a7664a74-a409-7d10-b0e0-39d1c4108219"><span style="font-size: 13px; font-family: Arial; color: rgb(76, 76, 76); vertical-align: baseline; white-space: pre-wrap;">@michael.wiltse: Thank you for your feedback. Careful consideration will be given as we continue to move forward with our research.</span></span></p>
KatieK
<p><em>SRA agrees with the previous posts that the labor categories should be remain subdivided into knowledge/seniority levels.&nbsp; The different levels of experience provide for flexibility in staffing and allow more cost realism for the Government customer as the contractor can take advantage of the additional granularity provided in the labor categories.</em></p>
Alliant 2 Blogger (not verified)
<p><span id="docs-internal-guid-a7664a74-a409-7d10-b0e0-39d1c4108219"><span style="font-size: 13px; font-family: Arial; color: rgb(76, 76, 76); vertical-align: baseline; white-space: pre-wrap;">@KatieK: Thank you for your feedback. Careful consideration will be given as we continue to move forward with our research.</span></span></p>
Jenifer A Fisch
Given the government’s interest in tracking prices paid for labor categories, knowledge/skill levels are important. For example for SOC 15-1131.00 Computer Programmers, the rates for junior computer programmers and experienced senior/expert computer programmers will be very different, and to track prices paid in a meaningful way these would need to be differentiated. Likewise, standard labor categories differentiated by knowledge/skill levels support apples-to-apples comparisons in task order RFP competitions.
Alliant 2 Blogger (not verified)
<p><span id="docs-internal-guid-a7664a74-a409-7d10-b0e0-39d1c4108219"><span style="font-size: 13px; font-family: Arial; color: rgb(76, 76, 76); vertical-align: baseline; white-space: pre-wrap;">@Jenifer A Fisch: Thank you for your feedback. Careful consideration will be given as we continue to move forward with our research.</span></span></p>
ASBSJBE
<p>We feel the subdivisions provide value, and we would recommend against removing them.</p>
Alliant 2 Blogger (not verified)
<p><span id="docs-internal-guid-a7664a74-a409-7d10-b0e0-39d1c4108219"><span style="font-size: 13px; font-family: Arial; color: rgb(76, 76, 76); vertical-align: baseline; white-space: pre-wrap;">@ASBSJBE: Thank you for your feedback. Careful consideration will be given as we continue to move forward with our research.</span></span></p>
kent.bartlett
<p>I agree with the comment about OASIS.&nbsp; Without a standard delineation of skills and experience it will be difficutl for the customer to compare offers and evalute the support they will be receiving.&nbsp; Our labor pricing models are built on having subdivided labor categories and an ability to compare candidates against requirements.&nbsp;</p>
Alliant 2 Blogger (not verified)
<p><span id="docs-internal-guid-a7664a74-a409-7d10-b0e0-39d1c4108219"><span style="font-size: 13px; font-family: Arial; color: rgb(76, 76, 76); vertical-align: baseline; white-space: pre-wrap;">@kent.bartlett: Thank you for your feedback. Careful consideration will be given as we continue to move forward with our research.</span></span></p>
NJM
<p>I think it would be in the government&#39;s best interests to follow the same pattern as GSA Oasis and further define the labor categories as Junior, Journeyman, and Senior based on years of experience, education, and duties/responsibilities. This allows the government more visibility and allows more flexibility in creating estimates and pricing on task orders.</p>
Alliant 2 Blogger (not verified)
<p><span id="docs-internal-guid-a7664a74-a409-7d10-b0e0-39d1c4108219"><span style="font-size: 13px; font-family: Arial; color: rgb(76, 76, 76); vertical-align: baseline; white-space: pre-wrap;">@NJM: Thank you for your feedback. Careful consideration will be given as we continue to move forward with our research.</span></span></p>
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